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Greatest threats to American society?

The meat industry. Some people who eat nothing but meat end up with obesity problems, cancer heart disease, and they end up in the hospital for long periods of time due to their health issue and us taxpayers have to pay partially for the health care thats provided for them. Everyone is a victim because of the meat industry.

Do you think meat should be taxed?

Do you think meat should be taxed?

First, I live in Idaho. ALL grocery items are already taxed in this state, as they are in 14 other states in the U.S.A.

Second, I'm a small farmer (in Idaho). I raise meat goats, and meat rabbits.

Meat goats, and meat rabbits produce much more meat, in less time, with less feed than cattle. The manure of goats and rabbits also does not have the "toxic" quality that beef, pig, and chicken manure has.

If you ate nothing but rabbit meat, you would actually STARVE TO DEATH, because rabbit meat has virtually no fat. It's call protien posioning.

Goat meat has less fat than skinless breast of chicken (!!!).

Goats can graze where crops possitively cannot be raised (as can cattle and sheep).

Now, please explain to this small farmer (me) why you think it is ok to force your views on others, and tax yet more small farmers who are raising their livestock in extremely environmentally sound ways out of business? That will be the net result of taxing meat. It will drive small farmers out of business, but NOT the "big boys" who raise their livestock in VERY environementally unfriendly ways. It will also put the price of meat even farther out of the purchasing power of poor people.

By taxing meat, you will allow the "big boys" an even firmer stangle-hold on the market, and give the consumer even LESS choices of purchasing from small farmers who raise healthy animals, in healthy ways.

YOU choose to speak with your wallet (purchasing power) by not buying meat, and being a vegtitarian.

I choose to raise healthy meat animals, in healthy ways, and choose not to support big oil companies, since we use no chemical fertilizers, pesticides, ect on our farm. Instead we use the manure produced by our healthy, earth friendly livestock to fertilize our fields.

Do YOU realize that YOU are supporting big oil, by being a vegitarian, and purchasing your food from the grocery store, instead of the small farmer?

How is what YOU are doing any better, or worse than someone who chooses to eat meat? The average person, really has not a clue how many TONS of chemical (oil based) fertilizers are dumped onto crops to make them grow.

Frankly, this day in age of modern farming, being a vegitarian is BAIRLY any better than the person who chooses to also consume commercially produced meat.

Monsanto, ConAgra, Cargil, Shell, Chevron, Exxon, will all LOVE you, if you manage to get taxation on meat. YOU will be their poster child golden boy.

How about if you put your efforts into supporting the small farmer instead? You know...the people who grow food in healthy, and natural ways, and know ever square inch of their land.

YOU don't have to eat meat....but you might want to concider buying your fruits, vegtables and grains from a small farmer who DOES raise meat animals. Then the farmer is using animal manure to fertilize the crops, instead of oil based chemicals.

~Garnet

Homesteading/Farming over 20 years

P.S. How many generations are YOU removed from agriculuture? Most Americans are three generations removed from the farm....they don't have a clue what agriculture really involves anymore. My husband is ZERO generations removed from agriculture. His father use to farm with draft horses. Their family has farmed as far back in an unbroken line as the family tree has been traced (back to the 1100's).

My Great Granparents farmed. My Grandmother did not. My mother grew up on the Great Grandparents farm. So I'm about 1 1/2 generations removed from farming....of course I've returned the family to farming.

P.P.S. Note to BarbieFairyTopia7, you stated this, "Consumption of red meat from cattle, sheep, goats and other ruminants has long been linked to heart disease, colorectal cancer and further diseases."

Goat meat has actually NOT been linked to heart disease, cancers, and further diseases. Indeed, goat meat is highly recommended by doctors for patients who have heart disease, cancers, lupis, diabetis, ect. Goat meat is an EXTREMELY healthy meat. Less fat than skinless breast of chicken, more iron than beef, very easy to digest, ect.

Goats do NOT put on marbling fat, or the fat the runs through muscle tissue, like cattle, sheep, and pigs do. Goats store their fat internally. If you butcher a goat, and take the hide off, you see meat/flesh, NOT fat. You have to open the goat up, and remove the internal organs to see the fat. A goat stores it fat along it's spine (inside the body cavity), and INSIDE its rib cage. During the butchering process almost every bit of fat is removed, leaving behind only extremely healthy red meat.

Chicken is a healthy meat, because chickens store their fat under the skin. Remove the skin, and you are left with virtually fat free meat. With goats, the fat is inside the body cavity. During butchering, and the removal of the organs, nearly every bit of fat can be easily removed from the goat.

Any goat carcass you see that has fat on the outside of its body, has been abnormally fed with grain. White Americans think that every animal for butcher must be stuffed with grain to fatten it before slaughter. The ethnic customers who actually buy the goats will complain bitterly about a goat if it has been fed grain, and has a fat lay on the outside of the body. They feel they have been cheated. Only the 4H & FFA children are taught to stuff goats with grain. The real producers of goat meat are feeding them hay, and pasture. This produces extremely healthy meat with no fat on the outside of the body, or through the meat. Goats simply do not marble, no matter how much grain is stuffed into them.

Information on American Bulldogs?

Information on American Bulldogs?

I would only recommend an American Bulldog for extremely experience owner

My major concerns would be:

1. Providing enough exercise and mental stimulation. American Bulldogs MUST have regular opportunities to vent their energy and do interesting things. Otherwise they will become rambunctious and bored -- which they usually express by barking and destructive chewing. Bored American Bulldogs can make a shambles of your house and yard.

If you simply want a pet for your family, and don't have the time or inclination to take your dog running or hiking or swimming or biking, or to get involved in weight-pulling, or tracking, or agility (obstacle course), or schutzhund (protection), or a similar canine activity, I do not recommend this breed. American Bulldogs were never intended to be simply household pets.

2. Bounciness Young American Bulldogs (up to three years old) can be bulls in a china shop. When they romp and jump, they do so with great vigor, and things go flying, including people.

If you have small children, or if you or anyone who lives with you is elderly or infirm, I do not recommend American Bulldog puppies. The temptation to play roughly is too strong in many young American Bulldogs.

3. Providing enough socialization. Most American Bulldogs have protective instincts toward strangers. They need extensive exposure to friendly people so they learn to recognize the normal behaviors of "good guys." Then they can recognize the difference when someone acts abnormally. Without careful socialization, they may be suspicious of everyone, which could lead to biting.

4. Animal aggression. Many American Bulldogs will not tolerate another dog of the same sex. Some American Bulldogs have strong instincts to chase and seize cats and other fleeing creatures. If anything goes wrong in the breeding, socializing, training, handling, or management of this breed, it is capable of seriously injuring or killing other animals.

5. The strong temperament. American Bulldogs are not Golden Retrievers. The best American Bulldogs are versatile working dogs, capable of learning a great deal, but they have an independent mind of their own and are not pushovers to raise and train. Many are willful, obstinate, and dominant (they want to be the boss) and will make you prove that you can make them do things. You must show them, through absolute consistency, that you mean what you say.

To teach your Bulldog to listen to you, "Respect Training" is mandatory. My American Bulldog Training Page discusses the program you need.

6. Shedding. For such a shorthaired dog, American Bulldogs shed more than you might think. Their short coarse hairs come off on your hands when you pet them, and stick tenaciously to your clothing, upholstery, and carpeting.

7. Slobbering. Some American Bulldogs, especially those with massive jowls, slobber and drool after eating and drinking.

8. Gassiness (flatulence) that can send you running for cover. Fortunately, American Bulldogs who are fed a natural diet of real meat and other fresh foods have much less trouble with gassiness. See my American Bulldog Health Page for more information.

9. Serious health problems. Hip and joint problems are common in American Bulldogs because many breeders are not bothering to x-ray their breeding stock before breeding.

10. Legal liabilities. American Bulldogs may be targeted for "banning" in certain areas, or refusal of homeowner insurance policies. Your friends and neighbors may be uncomfortable around this breed. In this day and age, the legal liabilities of owning any breed that looks intimidating and has a history as a guard dog and big game hunter should be seriously considered. People are quicker to sue if such a dog does anything even remotely questionable.

Frankly, most American Bulldogs are "too much dog" for the average household. Very few people really have the knowledge or skills necessary to manage this breed, or to provide the types of activities that keep him satisfied.

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